Mo, a director in the adult business for Andre Madness and Adam & Eve, and a big proponent of “No” on Measure B, was a recent guest of Rebecca Bardoux on her Internet show.
Mo began actively campaigning about a year and a half ago after attending a Cal/OSHA meeting.
“There was about a hundred industry people there and three cal/OSHA members,” he recalls.
“They were talking a lot about how they were going to build rules, and some of the things that came out of that meeting were just shocking. And so I jumped on the bandwagon at that point and it kind of went quiet. Then Aids Healthcare Foundation started collecting signatures last spring. I was approached by a couple of people and was insulted by the whole thing and really jumped on board at that point. Then I went on a Twitter-rant for the past few months.”
“Because Cal/OSHA considers performers to be employees of production companies, we’re grouped in there along with everyone else and we’re considered to be an employee just like somebody who works at Wal-Mart or any other company.
“I personally disagree with that because there are lot of things that happen in the adult industry outside of just sex that don’t happen in the normal work force.
“For example, not to jump right into the racial issue, but in the adult industry any performer can choose whether or not they either work with somebody of the opposite sex or a different race.
“Many performers in the industry choose not to do interracial. You can’t go into Wal-Mart and say, ‘I’d like to have a job but I don’t work with black people.’
“There’s a lot of things. You can’t walk on to a job and say, ‘okay, I do only this..I won’t do anything else..I’ll do only this one task.’ If you walked on to a construction site and said I only hammer nails, you can’t do that. But in our industry you can pick and choose and go about doing what you do.”
Bardoux said the same holds true for condoms.
“That is a choice and a majority of performers don’t choose to do that,” Mo also points out.
During that Cal/OSHA meeting, Mo addressed the board and, citing the employer-employee relationship, asked if as a producer he knew that a performer has HIV, is he legally required to hire that person or could he be sued for discrimination.
“The board said that’s a good question but a legal one,” Mo continued.
“They said we don’t know the answer. I continued to ask if I know that a performer is HIV positive am I legally allowed to tell the other performer that person is HIV positive. Or is that a discrimination lawsuit?
“If we’re like any other employer, if you work for Wal-Mart you’re not allowed to tell the other co-workers this employee is HIV positive. You’re not allowed to say I won’t work with so and so at a restaurant because they’re HIV positive. But you can do that in our industry.”
Bardoux added that performers are hired to do a job like a stunt person in the movies.
“They know they’re going to be set on fire with a chance of burning to death. They know that they’re going to be thrown off a roof with a chance of hurting or killing themselves. But they get paid for it because it’s a job.”
Mo said he didn’t look at Measure B as being just about condoms.
“I look at just as a standard work place safety issue. My question is when was the last time you voted on work place safety. When was the last time you went in as a voter and said I think football players should wear helmets?
“Or I believe that NASCAR should only drive this fast. I believe that stunt people shouldn’t be able to fall over ten feet. In eighteen years of voting I’ve never voted on a workplace safety issue. Why are we now suddenly doing that?
“We’re taking an uneducated group of people- not to insult the voters- but they don’t know much about the adult industry, and we’re asking them to make a choice based on very little education.”
Mo addressed recent circumstances in the NFL where the Players Association said the situation with the temporary referees had been causing concern about the health and safety of their players.
“They felt it was making an unsafe work environment. Football players are employees of their team. My question is now that this Ballot Measure is coming to Los Angeles, should we have a Ballot Measure that states that any football game that’s played in LA County, that there legally has to be a referee on set that’s licensed for worker safety? Why aren’t we doing that for every single employee-employer relationship?”
Bardoux, citing stats that were handed out at the recent porn meeting at The Sportsmen’s Lodge, said there are 4.2 million voters in LA County; 3.1 million that will vote and the combined circulation of newspapers urging “No” on Proposition B are 1.2 million.
“Not many people it seems to me are supporting ‘Yes’ on Measure B,” she added.
Mo mentioned that Michael Weinstein is bragging about the fact that “the second largest newspaper” was La Opinion, the Spanish newspaper.
“What I find rather humorous is you’re going after the Latino vote and especially if this newspaper’s backing them, a large majority of the Latino population is Catholic which definitely is against any form of contraception including condoms.
“I’m not saying this is a church measure, but I find it funny that they think the Latin population is going to go in church saying we don’t want condoms but we want to see it in our pornography.”
Bardoux reminded her listeners that Measure B is all the way down the bottom of the ballot.
“If you’re in LA County and you’re voting, just keep going down. If you vote for nothing else vote ‘No’ on Measure B.”
Bardoux said the word coming out of that Sportmen’s Lodge meeting was that the industry has to win by a huge margin in order for the Weinsteins of the world to go away and stay away.
“That’s what we were told at that meeting by James Lee.”
“This is all about money he [Lee] explained,” added Mo.
“What he was explaining is that nobody in the general donating population to AIDS Healthcare are saying we want money for treatment. That doesn’t draw in the donations, but you saw we’re going up against porn and we’re going to do this, now suddenly donations come in by people who are anti-porn or who believe in that Measure.
“So this is all about money. If we win by just a slim margin they will go we can give this a try again next year, two years down the road and go for it again.
“If we win by 20% we’re good. There’s no reason to go after it again and they’ll find someone else to pick on.”
Mo recalled how when Weinstein tried to mandate condoms in West Hollywood bars that he was opposed by the gay community and called a condom Nazi.
Bardoux said no one ever raises the issue that this is about putting money in the AHF’s pocket.
“This is about them getting endorsements and getting money from the condom companies. If condoms get put in movies everyone’s going to think we have to use condoms now so the sales are going to go up.”
Mo said while that’s a good theory not all porn is shot in Los Angeles.
“You can get plenty of European porn, and a lot of companies now with the economy being as tight as it is, are buying content from other countries and being put out here in Los Angeles.
“It doesn’t mean it’s shot here so there’s still going to be pornography that goes out without condoms. It just won’t be filmed here in Los Angeles. People will go to the companies that are putting out stuff without condoms.”
Mo said Wicked Pictures was also brought up a number of times at the Sportsmen’s Lodge meeting and the fact that they use condoms. www.adultfyi.com/read.php?ID=56356
“They are a great company and that was their choice to do and they do it very, very well. I worked on Wicked sets and they do use condoms. They are a company that works with a certain group of people that watch it.
“This is a very couples friendly company. Even their hardcore performances are not the same as what you would see in a standard gonzo movie. So they’re more feature based and they’re catering to couples. So you can get away with condoms a little bit more.
“The person who doesn’t want plots, doesn’t want stories, they just want hardcore sex isn’t normally watching the Wicked Pictures stuff unless they’re into jessica drake or Stormy. Otherwise they tend to go towards a gonzo thing or an online thing.”
Mo also pointed out that Wicked doesn’t use condoms during oral play or the pop shot.
“If you ejaculate on a girl’s butt, according to this law, that would be illegal because that’s a bodily fluid touching something else. For even Wicked who uses condoms, there would be certain procedures they use that would be against this law.
“Even Wicked isn’t fully up to the standards of this law, and I think they’re a very responsible company for what they do.
“I am not anti-condom whatsoever,” Mo stressed.
“I use condoms in my personal life for STD protection. That’s my choice in my personal life and it’s my choice on camera and should remain that, whether or not I do that, just as it is for a female partner to say I’m not performing with you or with this company without a condom.”