Christian Mann sent a letter last week to Mike South which South refused to print knowing that it was loaded with a lot of lies and self-serving bullshit. That didn’t stop Manwin-owned AVN from printing it, however.
“I’ve been showing how John Stagliano and Christian Mann hide John Stagliano’s health condition and doesn’t inform women of his health issue,” explained Black.
“They don’t feel performers should have that choice or option, so wouldn’t that conclusion be they don’t give a choice about any condom options?
“You said Katie Summers was a lying dirty whore. Five months ago I showed you when we filed a lawsuit, and now we’re talking about Free Speech and Christian Mann shooting during moratoriums, hiding tests results and fighting mandatory condoms.
“Stagliano decided to work with performers and not tell them about his HIV condition. Why would that same person and Christian Mann and these producers give a fuck about what these performers wanted. The proof is in the pudding.
“If you don’t like me calling you idiots and retards, don’t act like it,” Black continued.
“John Stagliano has been a liar and cheat his entire life but hiding medical information and playing games is what Stagliano has been doing since he started Stretch Class. I know you don’t want to deal with it and believe it.
“It’s amazing that they’re [Stagliano and his wife] been silent on these discussions about their corruption and thievery. They like to comment and speak about other people, but they don’t comment about themselves. They want to hide. But this isn’t going away. You can’t sweep this under the rug and it’s comical to think that you’ll do that.
“It’s comical, Christian Mann, that you spent a weekend putting together this giant letter and worked on it and sent it to Mike South and he didn’t run it. That’s got to be the funniest shit in the world. Christian Mann is very prideful of his letters and he wrote this huge letter.
“Mike, I got to commend you on this. Christian Mann is going, he didn’t run my letter! It’s like a serial killer sending a letter to the press. And all the press people got together saying see this bullshit scumbag letter that’s the same regurgitated shit.
“Him and his wife worked on it for six hours. Christian Mann, Mike South you’re favorite fucking boy, wiped his ass with it. Christian Mann, take your letter and wipe your asshole with it. You’re a jerkoff and John Stagliano is a jerkoff. Speak up and say you’re wrong and guilty. Until then, your lives are going to be torturous.
“Christian Mann, I love it. You sat there and wrote a letter to a guy in Louisiana who wiped his asshole with it. As far as that’s concerned, Mike South is awesome. It’s hilarious. Man that’s funny. I’m overselling it because it means that much to Christian Mann pining over a bullshit lying scumbag letter, it amuses me that nobody gave a shit about his stinking little fucking letter. It’s priceless. Good shit.
Mann, who obviously couldn’t stand being ignored, sent his letter to the AVN toadies. It reads:
Up until this moment, I have made it a policy to not respond or react to your blog postings because they are so frequently filled with rhetoric that is laced with personal attacks rather than constructive criticism. It’s clear that your anti-FSC bias is so powerful that you look for every opportunity to find fault, even in those cases when it requires a stretch of logic that is comical. Additionally, you frequently post opinions and accusations as if they were factual in a manner that blurs the line between opinion-based editorial and fact based reporting. Since you’ve “called me out”, but never actually called or e-mailed me to corroborate or rebut the many articles you post about me or my work at FSC, I simply concluded that facts must take a back seat to your agenda. As such, it never made sense to engage or acknowledge, even when I know that so many of your assertions have been 100% wrong.
I’m breaking with tradition today because I’m concerned that you’re giving talent some dangerous advice regarding testing. I hope you will put aside your feelings about the Free Speech Coalition and Diane Duke just long enough to consider some of the facts that I’m stating…
First, the Free Speech Coalition does not own CET. In fact, PASS accepts data from CET and TTS as well as several other testing facilities that have signed on and agreed to our protocols. It is true that TTS and PASS have had some disagreements in the past, and may have some issues yet to be resolved, however I’m proud of the effort I personally expended to bring TTS on board as a fully accredited PASS provider. I don’t have a preference at all as to performers using TTS or CET since they both provide data to PASS. My umbrage is with your remark that talent should refuse to use PASS at all. Given that several studios have mandated that test authentication must include verification of availability from the PASS system, and given that the PASS console is not subject to the danger of altered reports being used by talent—a danger that exists when performers rely on each other without the safeguard offered by PASS verification, your advice becomes a disservice to the performers. By the way, I recently had lunch with Sixto who told me in no uncertain terms that PASS is an important tool that must continue to exist.
Second, the Free Speech Coalition makes exactly zero dollars from PASS, CET, testing, etc. The reality is that FSC spends money to staff, program and maintain the PASS data base. Unlike AIM, which was funded by monthly fees from studios as well as testing fees, The Free Speech Coalition has never solicited one cent from talent, receives no kickback or benefit from testing facilities nor has it used PASS as a fundraising vehicle for FSC. It created PASS in the vacuum left by AHF’s successful vanquishing of AIM and in the course of stepping up at a time the industry needed us, created a very good model that has found a way to be devoid of the weaknesses that eventually shuttered AIM. Is it perfect? No. Can it be improved? Yes. Are we open to suggestions and input from all sectors of the industry, the legal community and the medical community? You bet. Do we recognize that even while PASS is a data base resource and not a medical enterprise, that it must eventually become independent of the Free Speech Coalition? Yes.
Last, if you want to be taken seriously by me (and I don’t presume that you do), I would implore you to address facts and avoid hyperbole such as your preposterous statement: “…Diane Duke would rather lie to you than tell you the truth, she would rather see you die a horrible death than lose twenty dollars in ‘donations’ to the FSC.” Even with your stated disdain for Ms. Duke, I can’t believe you truly believe this to be true.
In summation, I have devoted a lot of time and effort as the FSC Board Member chairing the PASS initiative. I have received no recompense and I have no ulterior motive other than to be of service to my industry. The scores of performers and agents who have encountered me over the last thirty years would likely vouch for my integrity and genuine care for them as people and as a vital component of the business.
I’ve never viewed the performers in an “us and them” paradigm. A simple collective “us” has always been my approach. Without our performers, I would have had no job for thirty-plus years. I’ve never forgotten that. Suggestions to the contrary, even in the 2013 social media, conflict driven hate-sphere, are hurtful. Don’t worry. I have thick skin. I’ve faced other significant challenges beside the ones I’m facing at FSC. I have faith that it’s yet possible for our industry, terribly divided at the moment, to return to one that is united and resolve disagreements using civil discourse, a little humility and some willingness to put aside our differences in the interest of the greater good.
Mr. South, you and I can agree to disagree on a number of issues. If you were to put aside the politics of personal attacks and were willing to reach out and check a fact in the interest of getting to the truth, regardless of how it changes the story, I would champion your efforts. Until such time, my only request is that if you post this letter, you post it in its entirety.
Black then read some of the letter on air.
“Christian Mann is like a serial killer who didn’t get a response so they sent it to another serial killer,” laughed Block.
“It’s like the Hillside Strangler sending out the letters to his cousin. But AVN which is Manwin, which is the Free Speech Coalition, decided to run it. What a loser. It’s just pathetic because Christian Mann and Evil Angel, that entire crew, have no concept that they look like pathetic losers.
“They really do. It’s hilarious that this pathetic crew has to write letters to themselves. How unbelievably hilarious this is. The Serial Killers had to write letters to themselves because the press wouldn’t run it. Christian Mann, you got like the hand from Mike South the hillbilly.
“That is so hilarious. Then you had to go have AVN put it up after it burned in your belly for about a week. Christian Mann, you are so pathetic. Your poor wife. Your poor family. Your own brother goes I’d rather go through what I’ve gone through than be you.
“You’re just a piece of shit. Christian Mann is such a weak, pathetic human being that he hides behind words. He won’t answer questions. He writes bullshit stuff but you can never challenge him on it. He’s such a weak pathetic person that will never respond to questions people ask him.
“It’s the most pathetic thing in the world that your own friends like Steve Hirsch, Frank Koretsky, and Paul Fishbein are letting you drown and die. You write letters that nobody gives a shit about because they’re such bullshit. All you’re doing is a slow, pathetic death.
“We had a 45 minute press conference by a woman who had HIV- you’re fault- she had a press conference where people could ask her direct questions. But all you do is sit there with your wife for 8 hours writing a letter. You’re a shell of a man. You’re a punk, a weak pathetic individual. What do you expect? You get marching orders from John Stagliano who is an equally pathetic individual who hides in a little house in Malibu.
“As always, Christian Mann marches to bullshit and the quicker he dies and takes John Stagliano with him is the quicker this industry will heal. You’re writing letters even bloggers won’t post and you’re stating a position that’s bullshit.
“Christian Mann, things are under attack because the simple things people ask you don’t respond to. Why are their doctor notes running around saying that people got syphilis from Mr. Marcus? Why is that a hostile question? Christian, you pick a place and we can set the cameras up. You can have security cameras and me and you will have a debate and I can talk very soft and feminine.
“I address you every day but you never respond. Right now go to a neutral place because I know you think I’m crazy. Go to that place and I’ll ask you questions in a soft voice. Christian Mann said the Free Speech Coalition doesn’t own CET. I hate this motherfucker. This is like them saying Dr. Miao didn’t give John Stagliano Cameron Bay’s results “directly”.
“You are such a stupid motherfucker and everybody sees through your line of bullshit. Just like you convinced everybody you owned Video Team. Everybody knew that Teddy Rothstein owned Video team. You were a jerkoff. We come from a business of smoke and mirrors. You worked for Metro. Metro and Kenny Guarino paid protection money to the Gambino family.
“You’ll tell everybody that’s bullshit and you can write all the letters you want, but that’s factual. Christian Mann we get it about Cutting Edge. On paper there’s no legal document that says entity A owns entity B. This is a guy who told the world he owned Video Team but he was a front man. It’s just amazing that Christian Mann, piece of shit that he is, walks on the earth today. It’s an amazing spectacle all unto itself. Are you a front for the mob? What are you? It tells you something that this guy was the front for two companies that had mob ties. I guess you’ll write a letter about that.
“Christian Mann says Our umbrage is that performers are being urged not to use PASS at all. You said that several studios have mandated that performers use PASS. Tell us what studios have mandated that. You cocksucker, didn’t you mandate we were supposed to have a mandate but one of your directors directed. You are such a piece of shit. There are studios not going to shoot talent because they’re not going to your company? Who, Evil Angel, fuck you. One of your directors is condom now. Fuck you. Are you going to tell me New Sensations won’t accept a test from AHF? You’re going to tell me that? Full fucking battery.
“Fuck you. I hope you fucking die. You are the biggest piece of shit. How the fuck can you say that? Kink.com is that it? They mandate? Who is it? Vivid? Christian Mann, Kink ain’t going to shoot talent if they don’t play ball with PASS and you’re telling me that Talent Testing Services is back with you?
“Let’s think about what he’s saying. TTS put out a big press release- that press release said Cutting Edge was dog shit but what Christian Mann is saying him and Sixto are hanging out and are chill buddies. So when TTS put out that big letter not to trust Cutting Edge I guess they got paid $50,000 and are back on board. If this doesn’t tell everybody they’re all scumbags. Now they’re saying Cutting Edge are good guys.
“Talent, how does that make you feel to be a sucker and you’re getting fucked in the ass again? I don’t think much has changed in two and a half weeks, but Sixto is telling you PASS is good. Talent, you’re getting fucked right up the ass. Guys, you realize this scumbag lies. Can anyone explain how AHF destroyed AIM? Christian Mann won’t answer this because he and John Stagliano are devoid of factual matters.
“Free Speech, Diane Duke they raise $8,000 for bowling. Where does that money go? If they made zero dollars I’m completely lost? I don’t get what he’s saying. I’m lost. I don’t understand why we’re debating PASS. All it is, is a database. That’s it! It’s a fucking database! It’s not the important factor and why are we debating PASS? Help me out. Could somebody help me out? Didn’t Marcus get through the testing process and work with a test that he had syphilis?
“You guys are making me throw up in my mouth. Christian Mann is completely out of his mind. I don’t get why he says AHF put AIM out of business when AIM owed half a million in testing that was never paid. Why are you blaming Aids Healthcare Foundation?”