Traci Lords One-on-One with Roseanne Barr; Barr Says Porn’s a Breeding Ground for the Rape Culture

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Roseanne Barr had Traci Lords as a guest on her KCAA radio show to talk about the celebrated rape case in Steubenville, Ohio

Two HS football players are accused of raping a 16 year-old girl last August.

At a series of parties, the girl, unconscious due to alcohol or drugs, was allegedly gang-raped by at least two members of the Steubenville High School football team.

The girl learned about the attacks the next day, the press reported, after various boys posted photos and mocking tweets — which they later deleted — on social media.

Two of the football players were charged, as juveniles, with rape.
Ma’lik Richmond, 16, will stand trial next month along with Trent Mays, also 16. Both students are pleading not guilty.

In her prefacing remarks, Barr talked about rape culture and pimp culture and how porn is one means by which the masses are “heavily drugged,” “heavily programmed,” and under mind control.

“Some say pornography’s the way they did it- they got it available to boys and girls.”

According to Barr, there’s a “patriarchal mind control programming of females to be brood mares and breeding slaves.”

“Our economy believe it or not, runs on war, slavery, usury and the building of prisons as well- all legislated by the people we’ve voted into office.”

Barr said that was the reason she ran a campaign for President, in order to wake people up from their lethargy.

Barr said Lords is a hero to her. Lords, in turn, said both she and her mother are proud of Barr for speaking out on the Steubenville issue.

Barr says the rape issue isn’t exclusively the province of women, that young boys are victims as well.

“And women set up other women, including their own daughters at times if they’re drug addicted or crazy enough, for rape.”

“It’s outrageous,” Lords agreed.

“This is a global issue and completely unacceptable. It needs to be put under the brightest light that can possibly shine.”

Lords mentioned she was raped when she was 10 years old.

“I felt completely safe. It was a beautiful day. The sun was shining. I was in a grassy field and someone I trusted did something really horrible that changed my life and put in motion so many things. And I was too one of those girls that was so shocked and so shamed and injured by this I pretended it never happened.”

Lords said she kept telling herself that it wasn’t real, that it was a bad dream.

Barr said that’s the whole idea, that it shatters your personality and makes you dissociative.

“When you’re dissociative you are easily used by corrupt adults.”

“Absolutely,” Lords also agreed.

“I was the perfect little victim. It was set up that way.

Lords talked about her mother’s boyfriend and how he continued the cycle.

“He made it even worse. He started molesting me. As a young girl I became so angry.”

Lords said her friend, director John Waters once called her a “sexual terrorist.”

“He said it with a laugh but in a way he was right. I became so angry that by the time I was 14 and in Los Angeles there were so many psychological issues. I thought of sex in such a way that I became a porn star as a young girl.”

Barr recalled that the first time she saw Lords she [Barr] was on the Johnny Carson Show.

“You came there to meet Johnny Carson.”

Lords also made it clear that she was never arrested.

“You read all kinds of things on the Internet, a lot of it is not true,” she comments.

“t was in May of 1986. It was shortly after my 18th birthday. I had the FBI literally break down my door. I was stoned on cocaine. I was a complete mess.

“I was taken downtown in an unmarked police car wearing an AC/DC T-shirt, a pair of underwear and nothing else. They didn’t let me get dressed. It was a bunch of cops in this car. I was incredibly belligerent. I was angry, I was cocky, I was rude, I was stoned, I was all of those things. I didn’t want to have anything to do with them. I wasn’t going to tell on anybody. I wasn’t looking to anything. I was a complete and total train wreck.”

According to Lords, the police had been gathering information on her after her mother reported her as a runaway.

“They had all my movies, and they sat in a room and they played different parts of them.

“Is this you? Is this you? Is this you?”

“The main issue was the films were all pulled. I was an underage girl. I was never prosecuted for anything, thank God. But then some of the distributors kept selling the movies.”

“This was 1986,” Lords continued.

“Politically it was a big year for pornography. This was when the Meese Commission was formed and they were trying to crack down on all of this. I felt that I was a bit of a pawn in that as well.”

Barr said she got freaked out recently when someone tweeted her a picture of an underage naked girl. Barr wondered if this is one way you get set up. Lords said she gets pictures tweeted to her of when she was 15.

“It’s so foul.”

Barr calls the self-righteous doing that, “creepy ghouls.”

“They’re like vampires who get off on humiliating people who’ve already been victimized. You can feel them swooping and flying in.”

Asked how she’s survived that, Lords said it’s taken her years and years but she has.

“I have an amazing life. I had to step into that huge bright light. I said this is who I am and I don’t back down. But the fact that anyone would try to make me wear some label, that I’m a whore, I’m not threatened by it.”

Lords feels the rape culture won’t change until, “We start raising loving gentle men.”

It’s Barr’s opinion that most of that comes from women wanting to hurt other women.

“When women stop wanting to teach other women a lesson…”

A spokesman for the “anonymous” movement in Steubenville called in and said the corruption in that town has been exposed.

“At the level it is in Steubenville is even more extreme than I’ve seen but it’s not unexpected. Unfortunately a group of corrupt individuals has turned town unity into something very disgusting. They’re sympathizing and apologizing for rapists.”

Lords said she left town when she was 11 or 12 years old.

“I’ve had a couple of heavy conversations with my mother over the last 48 hours because my mother was also raped in Steubenville, Ohio.”

“There was a machismo there. I don’t know if it was because the steel mill was there and the economy was tanking, I think the way my mother explained it to me was when she was growing up there and when I was there, women were treated as second class citizens. There was that feeling you better stay in line or it’s not going to go well for you.”

Barr said that’s the perfect example of pimp culture in which you’re property to sell and that coaches employ the same means to pit boys against each other in a test of manhood.

“You’re not soft like a girl are you? It’s not okay in pimp, big daddy rape culture for boys to like girls. They have to hate them and have to use them for sex. That’s scary. If they find they’re something unmanly about you, they’ll beat you up and rape you. A lot of boys perceived as feminine in the military, in prison and sports. But the cat’s out of the bag now.”

“This complete lack of humanity absolutely needs to stop,” agreed Lords.

“It’s absolutely everywhere. It needs to be under a microscope and really looked at.”

Barr said she hopes the Internet can be used to protect children against violent and sadistic predators.

“However those victims grow up to create a world of chaos,” Barr also noted.

“Women need to be the ones to stop it and just saying no to it.”

According to Barr in the US only 3% of rapists do time.

Barr imagined that with Lords’ rape at the age of 10 she perceived the world as a bunch of ghouls and walking monsters.

“How could you not?” said Lords.

“Anyone with any authority is a ghoul,” stated Barr. “Decent people do not seek power and that’s sad.”

Lords observed that in rape cases the victims are put on trial.

“It is a witch burning and that’s not what should be done here. Of course you want to look at facts to make sure someone’s not lying, but come on. To take someone who’s broken and bleeding and then just hang ‘em up is wrong in every way.”

Lords asked her mother if she thought anything has changed.

“Her eyes lit up with tears and she said, ‘not really.’”

Barr was of a different opinion.

“We’re going to change the world, and we’re going to do it together.”

Lords also pointed out that alcohol and drinking was involved in the Steubenville case.

“That’s what happened to this girl- she was drugged,” said Barr.

“She passed out unconscious. I don’t know if kids come up with that stuff on their own unless they watch pornography and get those ideas.”

Barr said there’s a place in Steubenville called “The Spot” where you can get hooked up with party supplements.

“It’s pretty well alleged that everybody knows you can go there and get roofies.”

According to Barr, this same football team has acquired the nickname “The Rape Crew” from past experiences.

“In April there was another rape there. This coach allowed alleged accused rapists to also drink alcohol at his house.”

From what she read, Barr said the coach was recipient of the rape pictures that made their way on the Internet including, apparently, Facebook.

“Who’s the blame going to be pinned on? I’ll tell you who won’t be blamed. It won’t be that coach.”

Barr offered the public warning: “Girls, don’t go anywhere where there’s athletes drinking. If you mother’s too damned stupid to tell you that, let me step in and take her place of what she should be telling you.

“It doesn’t matter if you can attract a mate so you can breed. Your safety and education is what matters most. I’m telling you don’t go near any kind of athletes who are drinking or they’re girlfriends. Don’t go to parties with them, either.”

Barr said the friend of Jane Doe’s was part of the setup to lure her to the party.

“It was her ex who said a month before she was raped, ‘Nobody breaks up with me.’”

Lords said she wants to see women get madder and take a leadership role.

“I want to see this change like you. It’s unbelievable.”

Barr said unfortunately there’s not a lot of hope for victims to do anything.

“That’s part of being a victim- to keep taking it. If you speak up, you’re going to get popped.”

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