Porn Valley- The Hollywood Madam before Heidi Fleiss was Jody ‘Babydol’ Gibson. And Gibson was a phone-in guest on Adam Carolla. Gibson plugged her book in which she reveals the names of her clientele such as Bruce Willis, Tommy Lasorda and Gary Busey.

Gibson says she comes from a family in entertainment and that her mother supposedly discovered Tom Cruise.

“She suggested that he use the name Cruise,” said Gibson who herself had aspirations to be in the recording business.

“I just wanted to make videos for MTV and move to Los Angeles and open a legitimate modeling agency,” she said. “That was what was most familiar to me having been around my agent mom. I found in my first year the guys were asking me about the girls; the girls were asking me about the guys. And, initially I was introducing people to people.I never asked for anything. Never expected anything until one day I ran into one of the girls in a brand new Mercedes 600 SL. I said, hey, where did you get the cool car. She said, from that guy you introduced me to.”

Carolla said with a modeling or talent agency that has a bunch of good looking women in the stable normally you’d get calls from other guys’ managers or publicists wanting to hook up their male clients for lunch or other dates.

“Having come from a sheltered entertainment background I knew nothing about escorting or any of the like,” Gibson replied. “The first year my agency was really legitimate and I was so protective of the girls. I would never have addressed that kind of call. Then it starts to seque. I ran into the chick in the Benz. She tells me my client got it for her. I think, wow, nobody had even sent me a thank you note. Perhaps I should start charging my standard agency fee.”

Carolla imagined that the guys on the list must be PO’d having been outed.

Accordingly, what Gibson said was most unique about her situation was the fact that she started casting for Playboy and getting into the adult film market.

“Bang, another epiphany,” she said. “I had all these playmates and adult film stars that actually wanted in on the service. Then I realized that affluent men would pay any price to meet the gal they just saw on the centerfold. And the epiphany was I was selling fantasy.”

To which Carolla said they were not only paying for fantasy but expecting privacy which Gibson violated.

“The warranty is up, my friend,” Gibson answered.

“Why?” asked Carolla.

“Because it expired,” said Gibson. Speaking on his behalf, Danny Bonaduce said he’s been to more hookers than Gibson has been to McDonald’s.

“And I’ve had them super-sized so there’s nothing you can do to me,” he continued. “But I’m wondering why you would do this to these people. These people are married. They have children…”

Gibson said most of them weren’t married at the time. Gibson then talked about a story retold in her book how her girls were flown out to Maui for the opening of a Planet Hollywood with the idea that they’d be made available to Sly Stallone and Arnold Schwarzenegger.

“However Arnold showed up with his wife Maria.”

“You are a former madam who deals in flesh and prostitution,” Bonaduce wanted to clarify. Gibson said she was in the record business at the same time. She said Bonaduce may have missed her billboard on Sunset to that effect and he said he was probably too busy with a $1500 hooker to notice.

“Mine were $3,000,” reminded Gibson who started madaming in 1987. Gibson also mentioned that Heidi Fleiss came to work for her as an escort in 1990.

“I couldn’t do much for her,” Gibson continued, noting that her girls were more of the playmate-Pam Anderson variety.

“My clients were spoiled by that type and I sent her on her way,” Gibson said. “But she went on her own in 1991.”

Gibson noted how Fleiss got busted two years later while Gibson had a love affair with a Beverly Hills detective which bought her immunity.

“That investigation with Heidi- there were 13 other madams operating at full force at the time who also got arrested,” said Gibson.

Ben Affleck was brought up and Gibson mentioned that he was a client in his rehab days.

“He was doing a lot of drugs and he did party all night.” Gibson went on to note that in her book each chapter is accompanied by court data and the black book documents that were used to convict her.

“There’s also the LAPD press conference that you can download for free on my website,” she said. “You can hear the Lt. brag about my black book and the high profile professional athlete and all the celebrities. Hearing is believing.”

Carolla said if he were Tommy Lasorda he wouldn’t know what to say at this point.

“And if you are Ben Affleck and want to go to Madam Jody ‘Babydol’ Gibson’s place and get yourself a hot blond- you don’t walk in as Ben Afleck. Don’t you send somebody to go get her?”

In Affleck’s case, Gibson said he contacted her California Dreamin’ website directly thinking he was contacting the girl directly.

“That’s when we had the discussion.”

Carolla wondered if Affleck paid by check. Gibson said he didn’t.

“I had a cash-only policy,” she said. “The only client that paid by check…” Bonaduce interrupted with Charlie Sheen’s name and Gibson said that’s why she didn’t put his name in her book.

Carolla continued to bring up the unethical part of Gibson’s behavior by revealing her clients.

“This is nine years in the rear view mirror- they are in committed relationships, and this is going to cause some divorces, and a lot of therapy,” he suggested.

“I’m doing it to sell books,” Gibson said in her defense. “But also because I have a story to tell. I was approached by a lot of people to do the movie as we are now. Everybody was, like, we can’t do the movie without the book. Where’s the book?”

“You have a story NOT to tell,” Bonaduce reminded her. “That’s your job.”

“I have a very interesting story to tell,” Gibson replied. “I led a double-life as Babydol the recording artist.”

Carolla tried to get the point across to Gibson that if she was charging $3,000, $2,000 was for the lady and the other money was to shut up. Gibson again repeated the warranty expiring line.

“When I was sent to prison I didn’t get any love letters and thank you cards,” she insisted.

“You’re a madam,” Bonaduce again reminded her.

“It was a three-party deal,” Gibson replied. “There’s three people that take place in that. I personally don’t think anyone should have been prosecuted. I think it’s an antiquated law in dire need of change. We’re living in a puritanical country. And I was sent to the most severe prison in the state of California. Who was taking care of me when I was getting my teeth knocked out and my head bashed in?”

Carolla felt that was her choice and Gibson said that’s the reason why she chose to write the book.

On the discretion issue, Gibson insists the whole madam-thing has become obsolete because of the Internet.

“Girls figured out how to use computers,” she said. “And girls and computers became a lethal combination. And now what you’ve got is, you’ve got girls advertising themselves, saturating themselves on the Internet. Nothing’s changed. Now the guys are contacting the girls themselves and now they’ve got more to worry about. You think it’s anymore discreet now when you’ve got a little 22 year-old with a big mouth running around?”

Again defending her actions, Gibson said she paid a hard price to write her book.

“And I have the right to write about it.”