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Porn Valley- Jack Lawrence looks more like Jack Armstrong the clean-cut All American boy- or Lance Armstrong, the all American cyclist for that matter, than a former gigolo who turned tricks in hotel rooms with Hollywood movie stars. Lawrence may have even given a ticket to one or two of them in his former life as a cop.

I spoke to Lawrence on the set of the Team Tyler shoot this week and asked how many times he got mistaken for Joel Lawrence when he first came into the business. Lawrence said he didn’t know there was a Joel Lawrence until people started mistaking him for the other Lawrence. “We look like we could be brothers- he’s a good guy,” says Jack. “He’s got a great sense of humor.”

Reach into the Jack Lawrence closet and you could pull out a uniform almost for any occasion. Besides being a cop, Lawrence served in the army and was a professional cyclist. Because Lawrence is often seen wearing a fireman’s getup, I assumed that maybe he had been one as well. Lawrence says he had taken fire science classes and was going to leave law enforcement. “Then I found out there were 8,000 applicants for 8 positions. I tested 133 on the list and said, nah. I’m not going to spend the next ten years trying to get on.”

Lawrence was in the middle of one of the funniest stunts ever pulled at KSEX. Jennifer Steele www.adultfyi.com/read.aspx?ID=5678 was playing with fire as she is wont to do, and Lawrence showed up in full regalia leading Steele to believe she had been busted by the fire dept. Steele ran out of the building.

“That was a lot of fun,” said Lawrence who grew up in the suburbs of Portland, Oregon as a teenager. At 18 he moved to a suburb of San Francisco and lived there until three years ago when he came to L.A. to do porn. I wondered what it is with Lawrence and uniforms. He ventures a guess.

“Maybe I had low self-esteem and I needed to put a uniform on to feel good,” he says. “But I wanted to help people. My dad said I needed some discipline so I joined the army. When I got out of the army I thought I really wanted to help people. Mistakenly, I thought law enforcement would be good. And by the end of three years I was pretty well burnt out. It was tough.” I mention the fact that look what being a cop did for Joe Friday. He and Lawrence are both shooting porn. But unlike Friday who was SFPD, Lawrence said he was a cop east of San Francisco. “But I can’t mention the city.”

Lawrence claims he was a geek growing up and was completely misunderstood. “I was a national-level cyclist as a teenager,” he says. “And people thought since I shaved my legs I must be weird. They always saw me riding my bike around town and in the rain with my book bag on my back and just training, training, training. Nobody understood or appreciated cycling until my last year of high school when a TV station came over and started interviewing me because I had Olympic ambitions. But I had a very strong chance of making the ’84 Olympic team. I ended up on PM Magazine and they started doing 10-minute stories on me, and all of a sudden I was a celebrity in school when pretty much before that they were ready to throw rocks at me because they didn’t understand me.”

But Lawrence’s perceived geekness didn’t stop him from fucking the girlfriends of the football players, thus putting his life in a curious form of jeopardy. “I related to women very well,” he laughs. “But a little bit better than the football players would have liked. And they all found out at the same time. It was good to have some good legs because I’ve had to run through the parking lot.”

On one occasion Lawrence actually hurdled the hood of a car being chased, or so he claims. “Basically seven different girls had boyfriends on the football team,” he remembers. “All the boyfriends found out the same day. I was walking to the bus stop and all of a sudden I had 15 members of the football team chasing me. It was unbelievable. You can easily hurdle the hood of a car if you have 15 football players chasing you. If I didn’t have those legs I’d probably be dead right now.”

Lawrence’s sexual expertise with women gave him enough material where he wrote a book five years ago about extended female orgasms. Lawrence said no one wanted to publish his 189-page tome because he didn’t have an MD after his name. Lawrence anticipates the question about his research. “By fucking a lot of women,” he smiles. “Women are like musical instruments. If you played every instrument in the band several times you start to understand that this woman’s a flute and this woman’s an oboe.”

Me, I’m looking for a good tuba. But that’s me. Lawrence, on the other hand, continues with one of his many theories, the fact that women, he says, only get 8 seconds of orgasm contractions on the average. “And they only get 10% of what they’re capable of- if you know what you’re doing, you can bring it to eight minutes,” Lawrence claims.

“I explained it in my book and people didn’t get it. So I started teaching classes at the Learning Annex on the extended female orgasm. Yet, again, I wasn’t articulate enough to explain it and pass on my experience. You kind of have to experience a lot of women to really know women.”

Lawrence had a lot of students who were couples and occasion warranted where he’d be invited to provide personal demonstration to the wife. “I’d fuck her and make her come for a couple of minutes,” he also swears. “They’d cut me a check and I realized a new career path.” The success of which prompted Lawrence to become a male escort. “I did some big name celebrities which was really nice. It was extremely lucrative.” Lawrence thinks you could sell a story like his to a tabloid for maybe $30,000.

Lawrence, who was based out of San Francisco at the time, generally had his trysts in San Diego. “I’d fly down, go to a lawyer’s office and sign confidentiality agreements.” Lawrence says Annie Cruz, his wife, has been trying to squeeze information out of him for a year but he won’t even tell her. “I’ll take that to the grave.” Lawrence says he’s fucked marquee names along the way, and, in his opinion, doesn’t have the looks to be noticed in a grocery store. “But I had some skills and as an escort you’re paid to shut up.” And Lawrence shut up.

He advertised on several escorting websites. “And a lot of it was actually word of mouth,” he adds. I asked Lawrence for a typical scenario and how such assignations would be arranged. He’d get a phone call telling him there was a meeting in San Diego and he was going to be flown down for a $10,000 gig, albeit he wouldn’t know with whom. Lawrence would be first interviewed by the celeb’s attorney. “If the attorney felt comfortable with me and saw my resume and saw that I had been an escort for X-amount of time and hadn’t sunk anyone’s ship, I’d be doing seven pages of paperwork in an intimidating lawyer’s office.”

After this, Lawrence would check into a hotel and be given a time he’d meet the client. “At the last minute they tell you a room number the celebrity is in,” he says. “You walk in and do your thing.” A session could go two or three hours.

“One huge, well known celebrity- her fantasy was to be blindfolded and be held in the air, horizontally, by six men. One man would go down and fuck her; then we’d take turns fucking her. She had that sensation of being fucked by someone she didn’t know or see. And she also had the sensation of being held up above the ground and could be dropped at any time which added to the excitement.” Under those circumstances, Lawrence and the remainder of the team would all be flown in separately, never having met one another prior. “Of course you ask them- you can tell me, you can trust me, we’re all professionals- who are the big celebrities you’ve worked with. You find out that they’re really professional. And maybe one of those guys is actually a mole and he’s there to find out if you talk or not. Because a lot of those conversations happen before you meet the celebrity. And if you do say I was with so and so, then they might say, waive this guy off.”

Because of the celebrity involved, Lawrence says this is an instance that really blew his mind. “That was kinky, creative and nice. But most of them just wanted to be gone down on for an hour and a half, fucked hard and say goodbye. But they’re paying you to show up and not get a map of the stars and show up next week in their front yard.” I ask Lawrence if the intermediaries ever tried lining him up with a guy.

“On those websites I was on I was very clear that I was straight,” Lawrence says. “And I would work with couples where the guy would just watch. I was a swinger for 12 years so I was quite comfortable with the swinging mentality. I felt more comfortable working with a female client with her husband watching because she wasn’t cheating. A woman on a business trip, it’s pretty clear that she’s cheating on her husband. In that situation I would turn down the job. I just didn’t feel right about that.” Lawrence says Cruz didn’t want him escorting any more, so he quit; but one of his favorite clients was a woman he was seeing once a month. “Her husband would drive her down from 400 miles away. He would get two rooms- one for him. I’d take care of his wife. He’d drive her back and she was a Sunday school teacher. Looking at her, you’d never in a million years think that she paid for sex.”

Lawrence liked the fact that some of his clients were average women. He admits he liked that idea even better than porn. “I could work with some very beautiful women in porn but they’re paid two or three times as much as I am to do the same act,” Lawrence says. “They’re there for the money. About 10% of the girls- if the cameras were off- would probably still want to fuck you. Which girls are few and far between but those are great scenes. But when a girl is whipping out cash, it’s a nice feeling. They definitely want to be with you.”

Lawrence got his connection to the adult industry through Keisha. “She’s just a beautiful person,” said Lawrence. “She booked me for an hour and a half. She said 90 minutes of pussy eating; 90 minutes of fucking then get the fuck out. With no lights, no words, no howdyados and no handshake. Her fantasy was to do it completely in the dark with a complete stranger. At the end of the three hours she said, know what? I changed my mind. Let’s spend the night. I said sure. We spent three days walking around San Francisco, talking about life and talking about porn. I had no idea she was a porn star until the next morning. Boy could she do some stuff. I thought she was a secretary on a pencil buying expedition. I had a fist in her ass and a fist in her pussy at the same time. I did all these crazy things. When the light came on I realized she was an attractive woman and next morning she said she’s Keisha. I never watched a lot of porn so I didn’t know who she was.”

Keisha then flew him down to LA and took him into World Modeling. “She said you need to get into this business and that was my foot in the door.” Lawrence subsequently moved to L.A. Direct Models.

It’s also a fact that Lawrence lowered his rate to be able to work with Mika Tan on the Team Tyler project. “I like Mika a lot- she’s a lot of fun,” says Lawrence. “I’ve worked with her maybe three times before. I’ve never seen a girl who doing the breaks could still keep you hard and keep you laughing at the same time.”

I asked Lawrence, with the extensive sexual resume he has, why did he get married. Lawrence answers by saying it’s a very lonely thing being a single adult film performer.

“Any time you meet a civilian and start a relationship, you can tell by the second night how long it’s going to last,” says Lawrence. “It’s usually going to be about three or four weeks. It led to sex- the sex is so great, they start having feelings for you. And they start feeling in love and when they start feeling those love feelings, they realize they can’t handle what you do. Then the party’s over. It was kind of sad knowing, walking into a relationship this is going to be fun for three or four weeks then she’s going to say she can’t handle it. And that wasn’t fun. I wasn’t seeking out a long term relationship. But I was lonely. I met Annie. We started as fuck buddies. We met on Naughty America’s Bookworm Bitches and ten minutes into the scene I whispered to her off camera and said I’d really like to see you after the set. She said where to. I took her back to the hotel and fucked her in the ass five times that night. I thought I like this girl. She’s one of the ten-percenters. She’s probably one of the top of the ten-percenters that are in the business because they enjoy sex.”

Until Cruz, Lawrence never dated anyone younger than himself. “My first wife was ten years older than me,” he says. “My second wife was six years older than me. I liked older women. I liked the maturity. I liked the sexual confidence of an older woman. Most women don’t have sexual confidence until they’re 35. But Annie was pretty much born with sexual confidence. She’s a firecracker. It’s unbelievable, and she’s extremely intelligent.”

The first time Lawrence got married was in 1987, but his wife passed away from pancreatic cancer in 1991. “Which at the time cause me to leave law enforcement and get back into cycling,” Lawrence points out. “The second wife I don’t like to talk about because that’s a bad situation. But I’m just a happy camper.”

Had his first wife not died, Lawrence feels they’d still be together. “I was deeply in love when I met her,” he says. “I was 21 and she was 30. Being a cop at the time, I desperately wanted to be influenced by mature people. That’s a job that needs a lot of maturity. I would have continued to grow with her and probably still would have been married to her. But my life would be completely different from what it is now. I was very faithful and I wasn’t very sexual back then. because I lost her I never wanted to get in touch with someone again. I decided I wanted to fuck a lot of people and have a lot of mini-relationships and end them after about a month when things started getting complicated.”

Lawrence says he and Cruz get a lot of people pointing their fingers about how their relationship will never work. “We laugh at that because we’re best friends,” he says. “The benefit we have that makes our relationship strong is we have absolutely no jealousy. I could drop her off at a shoot. If it’s one guy or ten guys, my only concern is that she gets fucked very well. She wants to fuck five times a day and I can only do it about three times. If she gets fucked really well on the set it gives me some time off. Not that I don’t enjoy fucking her, I just don’t want to be woken up every couple of hours- I need to get some sleep true. There’s only been two guys that couldn’t make her orgasm in a scene. She was bitter after those scenes, and I had to work hard to put a smile back on her face.”

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