Porn Valley- We had a lively conversation this afternoon with a lady who bills herself as Julie Bukkake. Julie introduced herself to me through a series of e-mails the other day stating that she’d love to be interviewed on Adultfyi. Julie’s from Landing Michigan and wants to get into the porn industry. But she seems to be having some difficulty and we don’t know why. She’s pretty, personable, has a great sense of humor; loves anal and goes to peep shows. A real pervert she tells me. But she’s still having problems making connections in the business.
Gene: So what name are you going to go by?
Julie: Julie Buck Kake [this is how she pronounces it]
Gene: Wha? How do you spell that?
Julie B-U-K-K-A-K-E
Gene: Julie Bukkake.
Julie: LOL. Bukkake, I’m sorry.
Gene: That’s pretty funny. Of the Michigan Bukkakes. Very big in the Gross Pointe Area from what I understand.
Julie: Well, it’s kind of a porn term, too.
Gene: I kind of know that. So let me guess, are you some kind of web babe? What’s your claim to specific fame.
Julie: I’m an Internet escort, model, entertainer. I’m trying to get into the porn business but I’m having a lot of trouble.
Gene: Why is that? You’re a good looking girl.
Julie: Maybe it’s my geography being here in Michigan.
Gene: The porn industry hasn’t started settling a community in Lansing as yet. That’s part of the problem. You have to get your beautiful ass out here at some time. So what’s your website so we can promote that.
Julie: It’s an escort website. Is that acceptable?
Gene: Extremely acceptable.
Julie: Some of the porn companies I talk to are offended by it.
Gene: They’re full of shit. Every girl in the business does it.
Julie: I know they do. They think I’m going to do escort work while I’m out there or something. No. I’m going to do it here!
Gene: Are you famous in your area?
Julie: I’m well known. I’m well respected here.
Gene: A well-respected name in the escort community.
Julie: I provide an honest service and nobody gets ripped off. I’ve never no-showed anybody. I’m very prompt and dressed very nicely.
Gene: if someone wants to book you how do they go about it.
Julie: I have an appointment form on there, or they can call me. My website is www.julieoflansing.com
[Gene I mention Jasmine of Denver from www.jasminesonfire.com and Julie says she’s heard of her]
Julie: She did pretty well when she was here. I don’t know her but I’ve seen her on the message boards. They seem to have given her a hard time for no reason. That’s the way these guys are.
Gene: What made you decide to get into that line of work?
Julie: I started working in massage parlors at age 18. Then I went to the strip clubs. It was something I wanted to. I always wanted to become famous in porn but it’s extremely difficult. I can’t understand why.
Gene: For one thing you have to make the active decision to come out here at some point and get your feet wet. But I’ve talked to a lot of girls who got their start doing escorting.
Julie: It’s just like the porn business. It’s not that much different. I don’t know why people are offended by it.
Gene: The only difference is, is a camera.
Julie: There are a lot of bad girls in the escorting business.
Gene: Cheats and thieves. I know that, too. Some will just as soon take your money than do anything for it. That’s what happens out here a lot. It’s a nasty business. So how long have you been escorting.
Julie: About three years. I love it but I’d rather do porn. I want to make a name for myself and have a fan base.
Gene: With a name like Julie Bukkake it’s a natural. I’m surprised some other girl hasn’t used it.
Julie: I thought about it and said this is what I got to have. Nobody else has it.
Gene: You are now officially trademarked. So how do you get into escorting.
Julie: There’s a service here that’s been in business over 30 years. They’re still great friends of mine. But people part ways eventually. They’re always been honest and they treated you with respect. I love to go on calls and get my hair and nails done.
Gene: I imagine you must have a few regulars which is like seeing friends over and over again.
Julie: Yes. Well, right now school’s coming back and it’s a holiday weekend. It’s up and down here in Michigan especially when the weather changes.
Gene: Winter must be nasty.
Julie: But then I’ve been to California and it’s not as beautiful as Michigan because of the changes of season.
Gene: But here when you can drive with the top down on Christmas Day- that’s an incentive. You speak positively about escorting but you must have had some instances where it gets hair-raising.
Julie: Yes, I’ve had typical stalkings. And I’ve been ripped off by webmasters for web sites. When I first got on the Internet I had four and five different websites. You’ve got to quit trusting these people. I got ripped off four different times. That’s why my website kept changing. Now I do all the work for it. I don’t have the problems.
Gene: Did you teach yourself to do it?
Julie: Yes. I’m into computers. I spend a lot of time on them. I’ve been looking at getting a better web design for my website. But I don’t like flash websites because they goof up all the time.
Gene: Tell me about the stalkers.
Julie: I have guys who call me non-stop for six months at a time.
Gene: I imagine you run into guys who fall in love with you and want to take you away from all this.
Julie: A few years ago I fell for it. The guy couldn’t accept what I did. It ends up being you can’t do that anymore.
Gene: You grow accustomed to the money. It’s a hard thing to leave behind. I’ve know some women in the business who have been in it for 25 years.
Julie: That’s impressive. I’m looking at it for 20 years. I’m not done yet. The only way you can succeed in this business or the whole adult entertainment business is by staying away from the drugs. I don’t need anything to do what I do. I can walk into a room and feel comfortable.
Gene: The problem is that a lot of girls who get into the sex business have no business in it. They need the alcohol and drugs to numb them.
Julie: They have low self-esteem. They should be going to college. You can’t live in this business all the time. That’s what I’m starting to find out about myself. I work seven days a week- 12 hours a day. I don’t get that much work but I’m out there trying to.
Gene: I was impressed that you took the initiative to e-mail me to get the ball rolling. How did you find out about Adultfyi?
Julie: I enjoy reading the site daily. I get up in the morning and read it. You’ve got a lot of great articles on there. And Autumn Rayne mentioned it to me. I talk to her about the porn business and why I’m having such a difficult time. She’s a very helpful person and very respectable in the escort business as well.
Gene: She’s a very nice person.
Julie: I got that when she e-mailed me. A lot of these girls are downright mean in this business and I don’t understand it. A lot of them don’t like what they’re doing or have other problems.
Gene: What are your turn-ons and turn-offs.
Julie: My turn-ons are going to an adult bookstore and going into the peep shows. I’m a kinky person. I go to the bookstores all the time.
Gene: You’re a pervert.
Julie: Yes I really am.
Gene: What kind of sex movies do you like?
Julie: Anal and gangbangs. I love it. LOL
Gene: Do you anals on your calls?
Julie: I’d rather not say, but for being an adult film actress I do anal.
Gene: Have you had any experience at all in the business? What’s the deal so we can help you along.
Julie: I’ve been talking to people but nobody writes back.
Gene: There is no reason that you shouldn’t be working in adult if that’s your wish.
Julie: I’ve been talking to Pretty Girl International.
Gene: Have you been talking to Shane?
Julie: No, Art
[Gene sez: In fact, Shane writes me to say: Hi Gene. Just a little note to let you know that Julie is supposed to be coming into our office when she gets into town. We have been in discussions for the past 2 weeks. Let people know if they are interested to contact us if possible.]
Julie: My photos aren’t up yet in their gallery. I’ve been waiting a few weeks but I know it takes time to do things.
Gene: What was it that clicked in your mind, porno?
Julie: I’ve been wanting to it since I was 16 but I didn’t know how to break in.
Gene: Here’s one trick. Wait until your 18.
Julie: My aunt’s sister was in Playboy when I was 16. I saw her pictures in there. She’s a great lady and still modeling in New York. She looks very good for her age.
Gene: Was she a Playmate?
Julie: Yes.
Gene: What were you like growing up.
Julie: I started stripping for my boyfriend when I was 15 and started having sex with him.
Gene: You’re a dream come true. Most girls would be, you want me to what?
Julie: I loved it. I always watch a lot of prostitution-type movies. That’s the only thing I watch. I love the life of it.
Gene: I take it you followed the career of Heidi Fleiss?
Julie: Not necessarily her because she didn’t keep her mouth shut. But C-grade movies I like. Shannon Tweed- I love it when she plays a stripper.
Gene: Albeit an old stripper by now. And Maria Ford always plays strippers.
Julie: I thought I’d be good at that.
Gene: So you’re 15 years old and you’d strip for your boyfriends and have sex. Give me a scenario.
Julie: It was their house. They’d start getting nervous once I’d start taking my clothes off.
Gene: Did you put on music?
Julie: I’d just get out there and start taking my shirt off and my pants off and show em by boobs and start kissing them.
Gene: Was this a little show or straightforward teasing.
Julie: Straightforward teasing. He was growing nervous about it.
Gene: Was this a long term boyfriend.
Julie: It lasted about a month.
Gene: How about women in your life. Are you into them?
Julie: Yes. When I work at clubs on amateur night, I’ve got a couple of girlfriends I’m dating. There was a girl from the escort service that I worked with all the time. I don’t know what happened to her. She was hot.
Gene: What is your preference.
Julie: Both.
Gene: Evenly divided.
Julie: Yeah.
Gene: Since you’re using the name Bukkake, ever you ever done a bukkake?
Julie: Yes I have. I’ve done some private collector videos. That’s what I’d like to specialize in. I think that would make me a big name.
Gene: How many guys would you take on?
Julie: Six.
Gene: That’s a mini-bukkake. But it’s not like the ones JM shoots where they’ve got 50 guys.
Julie: Wow.
Gene: Would you be able to handle 40 or 50 guys if the situation called for it?
Julie: I can do 40 guys.
Gene: What’s the wildest thing you may have done.
Julie: I was working in an adult movie theater. We had session rooms in the back. We’d meet the customers back there and fuck ’em. Everybody could hear it. That was wild. One guy broke the bed.
Gene: You’re working in an adult movie theater…I’m sure you’re not the ticket taker. How did you get from Point A to Point B?
Julie: I’d be dancing on stage. The primary thing was to have sex with the customers. The dancing was a sideshow.Gene: How much would a guy pay.
Julie: Back then it was probably $150.
Gene: Would you do lap dances where’d you jack the guy off?
Julie: We did more than lap dances. We had a couch there. We’d play with them in the theater while we’d go to collect tips.
Gene: Your first job was in a massage parlor. Would you give guys a happy ending?
Julie: Yes. I loved it.
Gene: So you’re good at handjobs?
Julie: Yes.
Gene: You’re going to be fine in this business.
Julie: Well we did more than handjobs. Well, I did. I liked doing anal. That’s my favorite.
Gene: A guy comes to a massage parlor. And you must have had guys who fell off the turnip truck. They think they’re getting a massage. How does the whole point get made that they can get more than just a massage?
Julie: We’d start off in a sauna. After they get out of the sauna we’d give them a massage and they end up starting to touch us and they’d do a reverse massage- on us. Then we’d end up giving them a blowjob or whatever they would like.
Gene: A whole menu of services.
Julie: Yes. Lansing used to have the biggest Red Light district downtown. But they ended up taking that out. It sucks.
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