Porn Valley- Describing her guest, attorney Greg Piccionelli as “the foundation of Internet porn and Internet technology,” Anita Cannibal told her KSEX audience Wednesday night that if you don’t know who he is, “you don’t know anything at all.”

“He’s fought landmark cases that are on the California Bar [Exam] 2004- we did have the Ashcroft case on the 2004 Bar in California,” she said. “And we’ve had several other cases concerning the adult industry on the California Bar. So I’ll probably pass the bar if they put that shit on there because I’ll know it.”

Piccionelli referred to an “historic moment” in the business occuring when presidential candidate Mike Gravel spoke to the Free Speech Coalition recently.

“He’s a two term senator from Alaka,” said Piccionell. “This was the first time in history that a realistic presidential candidate actually had the fortitude to come and speak to the adult entertainment industry. And he even mentioned in his address- you know they’re going to write a lot of funny stuff about me and they’re going to take pot shots at me for this.”

According to Piccionelli, Gravel said he didn’t care.

“‘What you’re doing is protected by the Constitution. You pay your taxes. You have nothing to be ashamed of and don’t let them take your rights away.'”

Piccionelli said Gravel was also promoting a national inititative.

“The industry consistently gets screwed at the federal level, because there’s nothing but monkey business in Washington, contends Piccionelli.

“Unlike California which has this process where if the legislators get out of hand you can float a petition. And through the initiative process, you can get something on the ballot; and when it’s enacted it has the power of the state Constitution’s law.”

Also on Cannibal’s show was performer Lizzy Law.

“She was at the think tank [from last October],” announced Cannibal. “She knows the health issues going on surrounding the performers.”

Comic Ramsey Moore who was also on the show wanted to know what 2257 was which Cannibal kept referring to. Cannical felt that the health issues were being tied up in a knot with the 2257 and copy infringement cases going on in the business.

“2257 is basically a regulation that’s imposed by law,” Cannibal told him. “It’s enacted, it’s enforceable, the FBI has come on work sites, it’s a federal law and it says guess what, we got to make sure you got your records up to check. So what we do as an industry, just like any appraiser does, just like any doctor does, is we keep records. And these records I think are a good thing.”

“Why? because the government has now said, guess what, guys. You’re regulated.”

Cannibal then referred to “those stupid sites” that are taking away “all the product money that Vivid, Playboy and Hustler have earned.”

“I’ll tell you what- their sales revenue in 2005 combined was over a half a billion dollars,” she claims. “Right here in California.”

Piccionelli referred to yet another think tankl which was held recently in North Hollywood.

“We brought together a whole bunch of producers to deal with this issue of piracy,” said Piccionelli. “One of the things that most people don’t realise with respect to their content is that if somebody’s an infringer and has stolen the materials, the chances are overwhelmingly they ain’t got the [2257] records.”

Cannibal suggested that people need to go to the FBI and tell them that instead of nosing around the adult industry, they should be going after the pirates.

“Those motherfuckers are puting up doggie sex!” said Cannibal. “Those motherfuckers are putting up child pornography. Those motherfuckers have no accountability. We do. We’re lawful. We abide by the law, and we have rights to be protected as company owners that have fought for over 30 years to stand where we stand. We are in the global economy. We exist. There’s nothing that’s going to change that. We are here to stay.”

“And that’s where I think the copyright infringement, the 2257’s and this work site safety issue tie together,” Cannibal continued.

“If the girls are protected on the worksite and we protect those pussies, we got every right to stand before the government and say, ‘Look, we’re a good business- look at how we treat our workers. You got nothing to bitch at us about. Everything’s on the up and up. Here’s our records. Now go after those motherfuckers over there because they’re taking the American dollar what we have worked hard to have to put into the economy.'”

Piccionelli agreed with what Cannibal was saying in the sense that the indistry can be a legitimate business and run well.

“And finally there’s some attention being paid to the health issues of the workers,” he added.

Cannibal was also of the opinion that the governmenr will only take the business seriously when it begins dealing with the work site safety issues.

Piccionelli, like Cannibal, feels that the basis of 2257 is laudable.

“Because we want to make sure that children aren’t being exploited, and that businesses keep records, there’s a whole lot of reasons why some system of records keeping makes sense,” said Piccionelli.

“But 2257 as it’s currently configured does not require the date of production,” Piccionelli added. “If it makes any sense, you would have to have the date of birth and the performer and the date of production, subtract that to see if it equals or is less than 18. But when they modified 2257 in 2006 they actually made it illegal to put the date of production in the records.”

“In their stupidity when they amended it, they added a provision that says the 2257 records must be a part of no other record keeping system and have no other records in them. It never was a requirement of the date of production.”

Ramsey Moore had to agree that the whole thing was moronic.

“It’s more moronic than any law I know,” Piccionelli added.

Moore said he likes the older porn because it has the production date.

“Plus you would think the companies would want the production date,” Moore went on to say.

“Let’s pitch the laws where it makes sense for the adult companies to do stuff because it makes them money. If I pay $39.99 for a brand new DVD and it says production April 2007, I know I got a pretty fresh piece. You’d think they’d want to push that.”

Moore said if he had his own production company, he’d want those dates on the cover.

Moore joked about how mainstream companies put production dates in Roman numerals, knowing that the public at large probably didn’t know how to translate them.

When Piccionelli joked about the numerals probably being codes for hermaphrodites, Moore asked if he had ever been with one.

“Not lately,” said Piccionelli. “I actually have a friend who’s a hermaphrodite.”

“Friend, meaning a weekend in Catalina friend?” asked Moore. “Or friend let’s hop in the shower and see what happens?”

“Not in the biblical sense,” answered Piccionelli agreeing with Moore that there’s nothing wrong with putting the date of production on the box.

“The record keeping is what we’re talking about.”

Cannibal suggested the industry should go on the offense and tell the FBI to go after the video pirates.

“Is anbody telling them [the FBI] to go get those guys?” she asked Piccionelli.

Cannibal kept making her point that the adult industry needs to stop operating like sweat shops in LA if is wants the government to pay attention to it.

“If we don’t start protecting our workers like the law says, they’re going to laugh at us. They’re not going to care of us.”

Piccionelli said the Dept. of Commerce should be working to keep the adult industry healthy because it’s a huge business in the United States.

“The hottest performers in the business are American-born girls,” Moore ventured to say.

“The biggest part of the industry still is in the USA,” Piccionelli added.

“And this adminsistration is doing everything they can to drive it out of the country.”

“They don’t want to protect the companies.”

Moore said that was also moronic because this is where all the tax revenue comes from.

In the same way the TV manufacturing industry left the US, Moore said some guy in Malaysia was going to start figuring out how to fly American porn actresses over “and do all the shit from there.”

“To give you an idea of how little they [the government] care about the kids,” Piccionelli said, “instead of saying to the parents you should be responsible that your kids don’t get into websites, they reverse it. They put the onus on the adult websites.”

And according to Piccionelli, the FBI guys that he’s spoken to would rather be out hunting down terrorists and capturing real criminals then going around inpsecting records.

“They’re good dudes. But there’s an agenda by this administration who is put up to the task by the Religious Right and those are the people that hate porn.”

“They’re the ones buying the porn,” said Cannibal. “They’re probably just jerking off to Debbie doing whatever the fuck she wants to do.”

If it weren’t for repressed people worldwide, none of us in this room would have a job,” Moore commented.

“If it weren’t for husbands and wives who haven’t sucked their dicks since their wedding night, they wouldn’t be paying money to watch KSEX and boobs out.”